WMU 4P, New York
Unit info
- Game species
- Deer, Turkey, Bear
- Group
- Zone 4
- Area
- 367 mi²
- Public land
- N/A
Black Bear — season & harvest
- Reported harvest
- 41
Draw odds for Black Beararen't on file for this unit yet. Check your state wildlife agency website for current draw statistics.
White-tailed Deer — season & harvest
- Reported harvest
- 1,537
Draw odds for White-tailed Deeraren't on file for this unit yet. Check your state wildlife agency website for current draw statistics.
Season & harvest data is published for Black Bear, White-tailed Deer so far. Deer, Turkey, Bear also occur here — that data can be added as the community contributes.
About this unit
AI-compiled · sourcedWMU 4P covers the Mohawk Valley south hills spanning Montgomery, Fulton, and Schoharie counties, a transitional zone of mixed farmland, hardwood ridges, and Catskill-fringe terrain that supports healthy whitetail, a growing black bear population, and strong turkey numbers. The unit sits in the Southern Zone for deer seasons and holds both limited-quota and standard DMP antlerless tags depending on annual population objectives. Public access is available through DEC state forests in the Schoharie hills including the Keyserkill State Forest Complex, plus scattered WMAs and state-owned tracts like Vroman's Nose.
Mixed agricultural and forested terrain across the Mohawk Valley south hills; rolling hardwood ridges, creek drainages, and farm fields transition into heavier Catskill-fringe forest toward the Schoharie Valley. Elevations range from valley floors near 400 ft to ridge tops above 1,500 ft. Cover includes second-growth maple, beech, and oak interspersed with dairy farm edges and brushy draws — classic whitetail staging habitat.
moderate
WMU 4P falls under the Southern Zone deer seasons. Antlerless tags are available via Deer Management Permits (DMPs); quota and availability vary by year based on DEC population objectives — 4P has historically been managed with a reduce or stabilize objective, meaning DMP numbers can be limited. Hunters should check the annual DEC DMP quota table and apply early. The 2026 regulatory changes introduced an Earn-a-2nd-Buck rule statewide, requiring harvest of an antlerless deer (with valid tag) before receiving a second antlered tag.
DEER: Southern Zone archery opens Oct 1 and runs through Nov 20; regular firearms season Nov 21–Dec 13; muzzleloader Dec 14–22; holiday hunt (bow and muzzleloader) Dec 26–Jan 1. No antler point restrictions documented for 4P (unlike some adjacent units). BEAR: WMU 4P is included in the early black bear season (opens early September, runs ~2 weeks) as well as regular and muzzleloader bear seasons. Population objective is reduce/stabilize, indicating a huntable but managed bear population on the Catskill fringe. TURKEY: Spring season open statewide upstate, typically May 1–31, hours 1/2-hour before sunrise to noon, up to 2 bearded birds per season (1 per day). Fall turkey season also open; hours sunrise to sunset. No firearm restrictions — standard upstate New York rules apply (not a Long Island safety-zone unit).
Strong whitetail hunting across farm-edge habitat and hardwood ridges; active bear population with an early bear season opening in September; excellent spring turkey hunting with accessible state forest ground; Schoharie Valley agricultural fields create classic food-source hunting opportunities; relatively uncrowded compared to units closer to Albany metro.
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Boundaries: NYSDEC official Wildlife Management Units. Community info last updated 23d ago.